📼 Jewish Muses: A Conversation with the Band Lawrence Â
đź“… December 26, 2023
_____
đź“… December 26, 2023
_____
I recently had the privilege of asking the band Lawrence, a Jewish band from New York, a few questions about their identity, their music, and general life philosophies. Below are some of their answers (my questions were given ahead of time, separately, so I have rearranged slightly for better reading):
Joseph: My dissertation is mainly about societal pressures authors and filmmakers face to write about their Jewishness. I spend the first few chapters looking at Joseph Heller and Philip Roth--their careers both struggled to various degrees early on because of the way fail to represent their Jewish identity (in the minds of the readers, that is). My last chapter is about performers, and I would be honored and thankful to hear your thoughts on this; one of the first times I saw you perform was with Trombone Shorty and Walk the Moon, celebrating Jewish heritage. Gracie, you joked that your song "I'm confident that I'm insecure" felt "very Jewish." You acknowledge it on stage, but I wonder how it impacts your work in other ways. Have you ever felt pressured to express your Jewishness? Do you find that it informs much of what you write/perform, or does your identity in that way feel "separate"?
Gracie: I don't remember when I said [I'm confident that I'm insecure feels very Jewish], but that totally sounds like me! [laughs] I think what I probably meant by that is I definitely have the inclination when writing about something that feels real to me to find the humor in it, or to find the comedy in it and . . . you know, I didn't grow up very religious but I feel like that feels very culturally Jewish to me and that's something I really relate to; to find the the humor in your circumstance and in your story and so I think that that is probably what I meant by that.
Clyde: Have I ever felt the pressure to express my Jewishness? . . . Â Um, no, I think that I don't think that I feel any pressure to and in fact I'm not really like a practicing Jew. I'm not like, I wasn't raised in a religious household--I wasn't even Bar Mitzvahed. So to me like Judaism is more present in my life in just like the cultural ways in which it's such a part of who I am. So like you know being raised in New York, the child of a comedy writer, there's just so many Jewish cultural references and touch points for me, like Judaism is Larry David, Judaism is Seinfeld, Judaism is bagels, lox and cream cheese, and like to the extent that I write about family and everyday life. Like those kinds of things seep into my music but I never feel any pressure to represent that I just want it to be authentic to who I am and I both don't want to push it and I also don't want to hide it you know I just let it be a part of who I am in whatever organic way that presents, or doesn't, depending on the moment.
Gracie on stage in Cleveland
Clyde performing in Cleveland
Joseph: While I was primarily interested in asking about the way you feel your Jewish identity makes it into the music, I'd also love to hear about the process behind deciding to do the docu-series; this is just another way you're laying yourself bare for the fans, and I'm wondering what your goals for making it were, what the experience was like, and more.
Clyde: Honestly these guys approached us saying we'd love to come on tour and make a docu-series and we've always known that we have an interesting story. It just kind of worked out and it was not something I was expecting to make but it ended up being a really, really fun project and we've still got some more episodes to release that I'm really excited about.
Joseph: Other than the docu-series, there was one other small thing I was interested in: I’d love to hear the “tea” about “23”! I'm not sure I've heard much talk about this, but was it meant to originally be on Hotel TV (the small call back in “Figure it Out,” my favorite song of yours, leads me to believe it was). Why didn't it make the album? And, why now?
Gracie: We just wanted to wait on that one. We felt like we could still like fine tune it a little bit more before putting it out, but also felt like it just like had the potential to kind of, of be a single for the next album like it just had that singly energy and excitement; so I just felt like I think we all were like oh if we put it on [Hotel TV] like are we are we giving it its moment enough. So that was kind of the rationale behind that.
Joseph: You guys are always so open about mental health issues—especially Gracie—so I'd also appreciate any words of encouragement you have about struggling with mental health issues, etc. For many of us, the past couple years have been really hard, and your music (and the docuseries!) has been a constant reminder that everything will be okay. Any tips or kind words for your fans?
Gracie: I think that like my words of encouragement in regards to mental health would be to, you know, maybe there's some merit in like writing down how you feel and like finding what is interesting in it or what is comedic about it (or what's distinctly not comedic about it.) And just like seeing the words reflected back to you is sometimes really helpful for me.
Clyde: [Having] a constant reminder that everything's gonna be okay; we have so many songs that say that, whether it's “The Heartburn Song” saying “it's gonna be alright” or “Don’t Lose Sight” saying “don't lose sight,” but, I truly do believe all those things.Â
To find out more about Lawrence, you can visit their website here.